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Making Tea

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No, of course we don't microwave the mug WITH the teabag in it. We microwave the teabag separately.
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sommerfeld
39 days ago
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It's not that 110V kettles are less efficient at turning electricity to heat than 240V - they're just less powerful. UK kettles draw up to 3 kilowatts, while ones in the US max out at around half that.
zwol
38 days ago
And that's directly related to the voltage difference. In both countries, electric kettles have to be designed on the assumption that they can pull only 13 to 15 amps of load from the mains. This puts a hard limit on the wattage rating — but wattage is volts times amps, so the higher UK supply voltage makes higher power kettles possible. Microwave ovens, on the other hand, are typically powered by 20-amp dedicated circuits in the USA, so they can be higher power than kettles at the same supply voltage. I don't know how they're wired in the UK.
bcs
38 days ago
@zwol FWIW, I've never seen a microwave with a 20A plug.
zwol
38 days ago
@bcs I'm not sure about this but I have the impression that it's OK per US electrical code to use a NEMA 15 socket on a 20A circuit *as long as it's a dedicated circuit*, and this is one of the reasons why 20A plugs are so rare on US kitchen appliances. That said, something else is also going on, because I just checked and my microwave is rated at 17kW, which is 14.2 amps at 120V, but I can't find any electric kettle for sale that goes higher than 1.5kW (12.5A at 120V). Possibly the real concern here is that a kettle *can't* assume a dedicated circuit, so the designers have to leave some headroom in case there are lamps or something plugged into the same circuit.
bcs
38 days ago
@zwol you can 100% put a lower amp outlet on a higher amp circuit, and you don't need it to be dedicated. (It's the same as plugging an 8A lamp cord into a 15A socket; the load is responsible for protecting it's own cord.) In fact, 20A wires and 15A sockcts are very common. What you can't do is sell an appliance that draw more than 15A but plugs into a 15A socket.
PeterParslow
28 days ago
Microwaves in the UK: all the ones I've seen (Brit living here 50+ years) are simply plugged into a 13 amp socket, like the kettle is. They're normally rated 1 kW, but some make it to 1.2kW.. Cookers (oven, hob) are usually wired into a separate 45 amp circuit.
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Covarr
38 days ago
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I put my strongest small ceramic bakeware in the toaster oven, filled with water. Sometimes you just gotta do things slow and appreciate life. Not like you'll be appreciating the tea; it's still not ready yet.
East Helena, MT
fxer
38 days ago
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You can’t microwave water, it will be polluted with radiation! Do you really want your kids exposed to electromagnetic waves?
Bend, Oregon
jgbishop
39 days ago
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I'll admit to microwaving the mug and tea bag. It works well for me!
Durham, NC
rraszews
39 days ago
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What's weird is when you get into the details. Apparently American electric kettles are much slower than British ones (British people keep telling me it takes 30 seconds to boil water in an electric kettle; mine takes 5 minutes) while American microwaves are much faster (Again, takes 90 seconds in mine; they claim it takes 10 minutes). (There is some truth here; electric kettles are less efficient using American 110 mains voltage, not sure why British microwaves are so weak though)
Columbia, MD
fallinghawks
38 days ago
Consider getting a newer kettle. I (US) bought a Krups 1L earlier this year. It takes 2.5 minutes to boil 2 cups of water, which gives my microwave a run for its money. It's probably also using less electricity too.
jakar
38 days ago
Haven't researched this, but I'm willing to bet that an industrial 240V kettle exists somewhere here in America, and that I could theoretically run a new circuit easily enough to accommodate it. However, I also don't care enough to actually make it happen.
DrGaellon
17 days ago
Has to do with the power of the magnetron. Most US microwaves today at 1000W or even 1200W; I suspect British ones are lower.
bootsofdoom
39 days ago
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Ah, Americans. Literally nobody "makes it in a kettle". You boil the water in a kettle and make the tea in a teapot. Obviously.
PeterParslow
28 days ago
If we extend "kettle" to include saucepans, then the Indian approach is to put everything (tea, milk, sugar, some spices) into a pan and boil it for a while
bootsofdoom
27 days ago
Yes, and I love a nice chai with condensed milk. But in the UK context that is not what a kettle is.
jlvanderzwan
39 days ago
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What about microwaving the crown jewels?
zippy72
22 days ago
Instructions unclear - unfortunately, "the crown jewels" is also a euphemism.
jlvanderzwan
21 days ago
Apologies, I meant microwaving the crown's crown jewels.
jlvanderzwan
21 days ago
"But that's still…" I know what I wrote. DOWN WITH THE MONARCHY!
alt_text_bot
39 days ago
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No, of course we don't microwave the mug WITH the teabag in it. We microwave the teabag separately.

Monocaster

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My competitors say the tiny single tiny caster is unsafe, unstable, and offers no advantages over traditional designs, to which I say: wow, why are you guys so mean? I thought we were friends!
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sommerfeld
129 days ago
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Missing the infamous 1914 "Tsar Tank", which was a massive tricycle with two 9m wheels and one 1.5m wheel.
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bakablur
127 days ago
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Where does a penny farthing appear on this chart? Sure, somewhere along x=2, but is y=30cm or 1.5m or maybe an average of 90cm?